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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:23 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:36 am I saw a comment about how white men under 40 are the problem. Now my first question is, how has all the messages about inclusion, accept all people, treat people fair etc etc somehow miss anyone under 40?
You saw a comment? Was it on the Facebook? Who made the comment? Did you respond to the comment? Maybe you should ask the person who made the comment.
does any of that change the question or statement?
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:26 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:23 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:36 am I saw a comment about how white men under 40 are the problem. Now my first question is, how has all the messages about inclusion, accept all people, treat people fair etc etc somehow miss anyone under 40?
You saw a comment? Was it on the Facebook? Who made the comment? Did you respond to the comment? Maybe you should ask the person who made the comment.
does any of that change the question or statement?
Well, it would address the question to the person who made the statement so......yeah.
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:49 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:26 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:23 am

You saw a comment? Was it on the Facebook? Who made the comment? Did you respond to the comment? Maybe you should ask the person who made the comment.
does any of that change the question or statement?
Well, it would address the question to the person who made the statement so......yeah.
So we cant talk about that statement here?
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Butch Bradford wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:48 pm
Je9 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:45 pm
Butch Bradford wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:16 pm

Do you believe enrollment should be based on merit?
Quit being so stupid. Dei doesn’t remove merit. Trump does however.
Wrong.
absolutely base it on merit. Do you?
There are tons of parents who bribe schools officials to accept fake SAT scores, create fake sports profiles and get their kids into a school they wouldn't or couldn't qualify for.
How is that merit based?
USC, Yale, Stanford, Harvard and others have all have been involved in scandal's. Ever seen Suits?

DEI doesn't mean unqualified. But then again, just look at what's happening in DC.

Do all of trump's picks have "merit?" (Rhetorical) I know you won't answer unless it's something Gif related.
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:50 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:49 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:26 am

does any of that change the question or statement?
Well, it would address the question to the person who made the statement so......yeah.
So we cant talk about that statement here?
You're expecting people to answer a question about a statement they didn't make.
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:50 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:49 am

Well, it would address the question to the person who made the statement so......yeah.
So we cant talk about that statement here?
You're expecting people to answer a question about a statement they didn't make.
or just their opinion of the statment.
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:50 am

So we cant talk about that statement here?
You're expecting people to answer a question about a statement they didn't make.
or just their opinion of the statment.
No, I don't have an opinion about this statement that was made by some random person that may or may not exist outside your imagination.
Night Train wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:13 am
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Trump is genuine...
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:54 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am

You're expecting people to answer a question about a statement they didn't make.
or just their opinion of the statment.
No, I don't have an opinion about this statement that was made by some random person that may or may not exist outside your imagination.
Then why did you ask?
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:55 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:54 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:52 am

or just their opinion of the statment.
No, I don't have an opinion about this statement that was made by some random person that may or may not exist outside your imagination.
Then why did you ask?
You're the one who asked the question.
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Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:51 am
Butch Bradford wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:48 pm
Je9 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:45 pm

Quit being so stupid. Dei doesn’t remove merit. Trump does however.
Wrong.
absolutely base it on merit. Do you?
There are tons of parents who bribe schools officials to accept fake SAT scores, create fake sports profiles and get their kids into a school they wouldn't or couldn't qualify for.
How is that merit based?
USC, Yale, Stanford, Harvard and others have all have been involved in scandal's. Ever seen Suits?

DEI doesn't mean unqualified. But then again, just look at what's happening in DC.

Do all of trump's picks have "merit?" (Rhetorical) I know you won't answer unless it's something Gif related.
Imagine arguing that you support only merit based recruitment and then getting behind hegseth and esp rfk.

It fascinates me how the human brain allows for all the “stuff” we see with the maga fools.
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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:56 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:55 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:54 am

No, I don't have an opinion about this statement that was made by some random person that may or may not exist outside your imagination.
Then why did you ask?
You're the one who asked the question.
Have you hit your head bull? Last week you started a thread about your opinion, then claimed it was not about you. Today you ask me a question, I ask you why you asked and you say I asked the question.

Are you sure you have not been drinking?
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Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:56 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:55 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:54 am

No, I don't have an opinion about this statement that was made by some random person that may or may not exist outside your imagination.
Then why did you ask?
You're the one who asked the question.
Sellingguy, you absolutely asked the question. "My first question is....."
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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:59 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:56 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:55 am

Then why did you ask?
You're the one who asked the question.
Have you hit your head bull? Last week you started a thread about your opinion, then claimed it was not about you. Today you ask me a question, I ask you why you asked and you say I asked the question.

Are you sure you have not been drinking?
What does your strawman question have to do with me?
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Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:59 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:56 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:55 am

Then why did you ask?
You're the one who asked the question.
Sellingguy, you absolutely asked the question. "My first question is....."
I know i asked the question.

But then asks me questions, then says he has no opinion on the matter. So if he has no opinion, why would he ask?
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Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:57 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:51 am
Butch Bradford wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:48 pm

Wrong.
absolutely base it on merit. Do you?
There are tons of parents who bribe schools officials to accept fake SAT scores, create fake sports profiles and get their kids into a school they wouldn't or couldn't qualify for.
How is that merit based?
USC, Yale, Stanford, Harvard and others have all have been involved in scandal's. Ever seen Suits?

DEI doesn't mean unqualified. But then again, just look at what's happening in DC.

Do all of trump's picks have "merit?" (Rhetorical) I know you won't answer unless it's something Gif related.
Imagine arguing that you support only merit based recruitment and then getting behind hegseth and esp rfk.

It fascinates me how the human brain allows for all the “stuff” we see with the maga fools.
Yet they only defend what the right does. Kind of like all the people who wanted "Obama care" gone but love The affordable care act.
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You can hate diversity and equality but imagine the stupidity it takes to consider DEI tax payer funded hate.
Ours is a cultural ghetto.
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Re: Is DEI dead?

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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:01 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:59 am
Bull wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:56 am

You're the one who asked the question.
Sellingguy, you absolutely asked the question. "My first question is....."
I know i asked the question.

But then asks me questions, then says he has no opinion on the matter. So if he has no opinion, why would he ask?
Fair enough.
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Butch Bradford wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:07 pm
ForCaleb wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:36 pm A great example of DEI going too far is the Ivy League admission practices which just ended up being a form of institutional racism.
Yep.

They are filling their DEI quota at the expense of other students, regardless or merit.
Well, there's that. And then add in how much money the DoD and corporations have invested in it and it's no wonder why many (not all) programs are not effective and why organizations are letting it go. Its hard enough to hire qualified candidates as it is.
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Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:05 am
Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:57 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:51 am absolutely base it on merit. Do you?
There are tons of parents who bribe schools officials to accept fake SAT scores, create fake sports profiles and get their kids into a school they wouldn't or couldn't qualify for.
How is that merit based?
USC, Yale, Stanford, Harvard and others have all have been involved in scandal's. Ever seen Suits?

DEI doesn't mean unqualified. But then again, just look at what's happening in DC.

Do all of trump's picks have "merit?" (Rhetorical) I know you won't answer unless it's something Gif related.
Imagine arguing that you support only merit based recruitment and then getting behind hegseth and esp rfk.

It fascinates me how the human brain allows for all the “stuff” we see with the maga fools.
Yet they only defend what the right does. Kind of like all the people who wanted "Obama care" gone but love The affordable care act.
That interview with that guy learning he had Obama care is a top 10 maga fool entertainment :lol:
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I want the best person for any job or position regardless of race, sex, or anything else you could think of.
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Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:13 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:05 am
Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:57 am
Imagine arguing that you support only merit based recruitment and then getting behind hegseth and esp rfk.

It fascinates me how the human brain allows for all the “stuff” we see with the maga fools.
Yet they only defend what the right does. Kind of like all the people who wanted "Obama care" gone but love The affordable care act.
That interview with that guy learning he had Obama care is a top 10 maga fool entertainment :lol:
I didn't see it. Someone should post it. But I was watching the news when a maga lady said they need to do away with it and then said she has the ACA. I cracked up at the TV. First I was like :shock: then I was like :lol: :lol: :lol:
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chris_numbers wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:15 am I want the best person for any job or position regardless of race, sex, or anything else you could think of.
But race, sex or anything else could be the deciding factor based on the job, the company and their base of customers.
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chris_numbers wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:15 am I want the best person for any job or position regardless of race, sex, or anything else you could think of.
Most of us do, but trump doesn't care what we want.
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Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:28 am
chris_numbers wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:15 am I want the best person for any job or position regardless of race, sex, or anything else you could think of.
Most of us do, but trump doesn't care what we want.
Is trump causing your company to change their hiring process?
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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:36 am I saw a comment about how white men under 40 are the problem. Now my first question is, how has all the messages about inclusion, accept all people, treat people fair etc etc somehow miss anyone under 40?
You should focus on the best strawman comment you could find. Its the best way to confirm the opinions you bring to a topic.
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Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:53 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:36 am I saw a comment about how white men under 40 are the problem. Now my first question is, how has all the messages about inclusion, accept all people, treat people fair etc etc somehow miss anyone under 40?
You should focus on the best strawman comment you could find. Its the best way to confirm the opinions you bring to a topic.
He saw a comment once somewhere tho!
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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:30 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:28 am
chris_numbers wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:15 am I want the best person for any job or position regardless of race, sex, or anything else you could think of.
Most of us do, but trump doesn't care what we want.
Is trump causing your company to change their hiring process?
^ this is the crux of the problem of how a trump can get elected. It’s selfishness. If it doesn’t affect me directly then I don’t care.

Trump ended DEI in the federal government, which belongs to the citizens. Well it used to anyway
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Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:57 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:30 am
Mplsfonz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:28 am Most of us do, but trump doesn't care what we want.
Is trump causing your company to change their hiring process?
^ this is the crux of the problem of how a trump can get elected. It’s selfishness. If it doesn’t affect me directly then I don’t care.

Trump ended DEI in the federal government, which belongs to the citizens. Well it used to anyway
how many people do you think were pissed they had to hire people based on this?
Do you think the people that support these practices will really stop doing it?

You guys are acting like every protected group is going to fired, deported and kick out of their house this week.

I find it funny as hell that Target even made a fucking statement. They could have just shut up and said nothing. Now they look like idiots.
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Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:19 am
Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:57 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:30 am

Is trump causing your company to change their hiring process?
^ this is the crux of the problem of how a trump can get elected. It’s selfishness. If it doesn’t affect me directly then I don’t care.

Trump ended DEI in the federal government, which belongs to the citizens. Well it used to anyway
how many people do you think were pissed they had to hire people based on this?
Do you think the people that support these practices will really stop doing it?

You guys are acting like every protected group is going to fired, deported and kick out of their house this week.

I find it funny as hell that Target even made a fucking statement. They could have just shut up and said nothing. Now they look like idiots.
Who was forced to hire people based on this?
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Ask Not wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:38 am
Sellingguy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:19 am
Je9 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:57 am

^ this is the crux of the problem of how a trump can get elected. It’s selfishness. If it doesn’t affect me directly then I don’t care.

Trump ended DEI in the federal government, which belongs to the citizens. Well it used to anyway
how many people do you think were pissed they had to hire people based on this?
Do you think the people that support these practices will really stop doing it?

You guys are acting like every protected group is going to fired, deported and kick out of their house this week.

I find it funny as hell that Target even made a fucking statement. They could have just shut up and said nothing. Now they look like idiots.
Who was forced to hire people based on this?
Did i say someone was forced? Let me look. I didn't find one. Could you find it for me? I might have said it. However, in case I didn't say, it is interesting you of all people are putting words in my mouth. You get a bit testy when that happens to you.
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