That honestly is probably the easiest part of this whole thing.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:11 pm Sounds like they are going to renounce Russell right away after that. So, no sign and trade. Hopefully they can free up the cap to go get him.
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Wolves in on D'Angelo Russell?
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Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.
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Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.
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Free agency should have "started" at noon today.
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Just copy the tweet, paste here.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:15 pm Woj on fire. Sorry, I don't know how to embed tweets.
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Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href=" 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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If using the link paste inside media box. The button that looks like a TV/ComputerHeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:18 pmJust copy the tweet, paste here.jffl_commish wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:15 pm Woj on fire. Sorry, I don't know how to embed tweets.
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Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.
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Update?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pmIt won't happen, not worried. I could see one 1st or Okogie not two 1sts and some 2nds. That is the modern historical value, if we were to pay more than that, knowing that, then Rosas isn't likely any good. It is a good test to see where he is at. So what will I do? Drink...alot! But I would do that anyways.
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Wiggins is goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonejffl_commish wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:20 pm <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href=" 29, 2019</a></blockquote>
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My plans are still fluid...see what I did there.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:21 pmUpdate?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pmIt won't happen, not worried. I could see one 1st or Okogie not two 1sts and some 2nds. That is the modern historical value, if we were to pay more than that, knowing that, then Rosas isn't likely any good. It is a good test to see where he is at. So what will I do? Drink...alot! But I would do that anyways.
It is not going to cost two firsts in a s&t, still not worried.
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Danny Cunningham's article said a protected first to the team who takes Teague and a second to the Nets.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:26 pmMy plans are still fluid...see what I did there.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:21 pmUpdate?SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:58 pm
It won't happen, not worried. I could see one 1st or Okogie not two 1sts and some 2nds. That is the modern historical value, if we were to pay more than that, knowing that, then Rosas isn't likely any good. It is a good test to see where he is at. So what will I do? Drink...alot! But I would do that anyways.
It is not going to cost two firsts in a s&t, still not worried.
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That is more realistic. In a vaccum I would prefer to try and clear space, because it shouldn't cost a first, but that is far harder than a S&T.
You are also wrong. He said TWO firsts.
"Altogether, that deal would be Teague, Bates-Diop, Reynolds, the Wolves 2020 first and the Wolves 2022 first for the opportunity to have D’Angelo Russell on a maximum contract."
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This is the same thing I said to you on page 26 and you disagreed with me.. or something. I don't know where you pulled the two firsts from. Maybe I mentioned that previously when I discussed giving up multiple firsts if you could clear enough room for Harris AND Russell.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:31 pmThat is more realistic. In a vaccum I would prefer to try and clear space, because it shouldn't cost a first, but that is far harder than a S&T.
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No, this is what I disagreed with. Read what you post buddy.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:34 pmThis is the same thing I said to you on page 26 and you disagreed with me.. or something. I don't know where you pulled the two firsts from. Maybe I mentioned that previously when I discussed giving up multiple firsts if you could clear enough room for Harris AND Russell.
"Altogether, that deal would be Teague, Bates-Diop, Reynolds, the Wolves 2020 first and the Wolves 2022 first for the opportunity to have D’Angelo Russell on a maximum contract."
My opinion is Two firsts in a S&T is crazy and not going to happen. Nets may get Two 2nds and the team that takes Teauge may get a first because they have leverage. But because we waived Reynolds to get to the Max or near Max Okogie needs to likely go (KBD) not enough, I don't think. They may view that like a first. That is all. Maybe Russell will come here for around 20 million? Then it is likely a first and we can keep Josh.
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Expected. They’ll definitely be competition. They have cap space day 1.
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Wolves got first meeting. Russell's people know he's a fall back for Kawhi.
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I just searched my posts for Reynolds. I can't find where I said the bolded above. Are you quoting someone else? Show me the post please. Thanks.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:38 pmNo, this is what I disagreed with. Read what you post buddy.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:34 pmThis is the same thing I said to you on page 26 and you disagreed with me.. or something. I don't know where you pulled the two firsts from. Maybe I mentioned that previously when I discussed giving up multiple firsts if you could clear enough room for Harris AND Russell.
"Altogether, that deal would be Teague, Bates-Diop, Reynolds, the Wolves 2020 first and the Wolves 2022 first for the opportunity to have D’Angelo Russell on a maximum contract."
My opinion is Two firsts in a S&T is crazy and not going to happen. Nets may get Two 2nds and the team that takes Teauge may get a first because they have leverage. But because we waived Reynolds to get to the Max or near Max Okogie needs to likely go. They may view that like a first. That is all.
What Dane Moore wrote and what I said would be the deal laid out by him:
Teague + KBD + Cam Reynolds in a sign and trade for a maxed Russell. Teague would go to a third team likely with a future first round, maybe top 5-6 protected for 2020. And then you'd compensate the Nets with maybe a second in addition to KBD and Reynolds. You can substitute Okogie for that but I'm guessing Minnesota doesn't want to do that.
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He’d be foolish to decline MAX from LA, if it comes to that.
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You didn't say it, the article you posted did. Moore has his idea of a S&T, that is fine, it is close in my opinion. The article calling for TWO firsts in a S&T is not fine and unrealistic. That is what I was responding to.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:46 pmI just searched my posts for Reynolds. I can't find where I said the bolded above. Are you quoting someone else? Show me the post please. Thanks.SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:38 pmNo, this is what I disagreed with. Read what you post buddy.HeHateMe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:34 pm
This is the same thing I said to you on page 26 and you disagreed with me.. or something. I don't know where you pulled the two firsts from. Maybe I mentioned that previously when I discussed giving up multiple firsts if you could clear enough room for Harris AND Russell.
"Altogether, that deal would be Teague, Bates-Diop, Reynolds, the Wolves 2020 first and the Wolves 2022 first for the opportunity to have D’Angelo Russell on a maximum contract."
My opinion is Two firsts in a S&T is crazy and not going to happen. Nets may get Two 2nds and the team that takes Teauge may get a first because they have leverage. But because we waived Reynolds to get to the Max or near Max Okogie needs to likely go. They may view that like a first. That is all.
What Dane Moore wrote and what I said would be the deal laid out by him:Teague + KBD + Cam Reynolds in a sign and trade for a maxed Russell. Teague would go to a third team likely with a future first round, maybe top 5-6 protected for 2020. And then you'd compensate the Nets with maybe a second in addition to KBD and Reynolds. You can substitute Okogie for that but I'm guessing Minnesota doesn't want to do that.
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Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
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I believe there are ways to make that hapoen but it's not going to.Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:14 pm Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
Wiggins is gone if they get Russell.
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Yes.Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:14 pm Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
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I don't want Russell here on the max if Wiggins is still here on the max. That ain't winning us shit.Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:14 pm Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
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Exactly. That would be atrocious.kilkenny wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:21 pmI don't want Russell if Wiggins is still here on the max. That ain't winning us shit.Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:14 pm Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
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Sure, but who would want that?Philo Beddoe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:14 pm Can Russell and Wiggins be on the Timberwolves at the same time? Speaking salary wise
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