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YBBR wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:18 pm
LordNu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:17 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:09 pm I think we Wolves fans deserve to have a movie made about us. Who is playing you?
Right now I am should be played by Russell Crowe.
This movie gonna be star studded!
At the end they are going to sing we are the world, it is going to be dope.
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Small Hands wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:11 pm This move for Golden St is just bizarre. They’re now hard capped. They have one legitimate wing now. Two guys who want the ball in their hands. Reeks of desperation but I’m sure they’re laughing at us so ...
I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
DeAngelo, Curry and Green will be enough to get them into the tournament next year. Probably a top 3 seed.
I don’t think so at all.
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flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:21 pm
j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:02 pm
flexbuffchest wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:01 pm
Because we where his top choice.
According to who? Did he say that?
Seems I'm not the only one who thought that and no that isn't my twitter.

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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:11 pm This move for Golden St is just bizarre. They’re now hard capped. They have one legitimate wing now. Two guys who want the ball in their hands. Reeks of desperation but I’m sure they’re laughing at us so ...
I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
I’m sure from their perspective it’s just getting something for losing KD but they sapped their long term flexibility unless they think Russell is easily tradable going forward. They certainly aren’t players for Giannis like all their fans always thought when they have the cap situation they have going forward. Oh well. They fucked us. I might be out for the summer. This place is about to get toxic.
Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
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A bit off topic, but can you get a disability check for PTSD?
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:11 pm This move for Golden St is just bizarre. They’re now hard capped. They have one legitimate wing now. Two guys who want the ball in their hands. Reeks of desperation but I’m sure they’re laughing at us so ...
I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
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bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm

I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
I’m sure from their perspective it’s just getting something for losing KD but they sapped their long term flexibility unless they think Russell is easily tradable going forward. They certainly aren’t players for Giannis like all their fans always thought when they have the cap situation they have going forward. Oh well. They fucked us. I might be out for the summer. This place is about to get toxic.
Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:22 pm
Small Hands wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm

I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
DeAngelo, Curry and Green will be enough to get them into the tournament next year. Probably a top 3 seed.
I don’t think so at all.
Well. You're wrong :mrgreen:
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bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:12 pm

I don't understand it either. Makes ZERO sense.

Klay will be out this year so maybe they are just thinking of the now?

Curry is also not that young anymore either.

Very bizarre indeed though.
I’m sure from their perspective it’s just getting something for losing KD but they sapped their long term flexibility unless they think Russell is easily tradable going forward. They certainly aren’t players for Giannis like all their fans always thought when they have the cap situation they have going forward. Oh well. They fucked us. I might be out for the summer. This place is about to get toxic.
Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:31 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
I’m sure from their perspective it’s just getting something for losing KD but they sapped their long term flexibility unless they think Russell is easily tradable going forward. They certainly aren’t players for Giannis like all their fans always thought when they have the cap situation they have going forward. Oh well. They fucked us. I might be out for the summer. This place is about to get toxic.
Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
Agreed. Their run is over.
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Maybe Rosas gets on the phone with the Cavs and pays up for Garland.
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LordNu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:17 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:09 pm I think we Wolves fans deserve to have a movie made about us. Who is playing you?
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Looking back to the start, we had this all wrong. The wolves were in on D’Angelo but not Russell.
[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SxVNOnPyvIU[/youtube]
He’s a little past his prime and not in as good a shape as this vid, but could be a nice mad mardigan replacement.
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Lol change the thread title
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KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:31 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:15 pm
I’m sure from their perspective it’s just getting something for losing KD but they sapped their long term flexibility unless they think Russell is easily tradable going forward. They certainly aren’t players for Giannis like all their fans always thought when they have the cap situation they have going forward. Oh well. They fucked us. I might be out for the summer. This place is about to get toxic.
Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
Draymond looked like he lost a step...until the playoffs where he was an animal. It may be the same team from 2015, but did you expect them to just roll over and die? This is a highly competitive and prideful team. If I were a fan of them, I'd expect them to make a move like this, and would not be happy if they just rolled over.
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:32 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:31 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
Agreed. Their run is over.
Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
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Idk... with the Klay extension they’re capped tf out for a while. What if Curry has a steep slope?
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SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:34 pm
LordNu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:17 pm
SO_MONEY wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:09 pm I think we Wolves fans deserve to have a movie made about us. Who is playing you?
Right now I am should be played by Russell Crowe.
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Well I was thinking Gladiator Crowe. Wolves destroy everything I love, I lose everything, but then get inside the Wolves FO and end up destroying the Wolves, even if it means I die.
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bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:39 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:32 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:31 pm

That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
Agreed. Their run is over.
Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on. They maxed a guy that is essentially their 4th best player and has only proven to be a NBA player for one year.

It makes sense for a team like the Wolves to gamble on something like this but not GS imo. They could have been player's for some of the biggest FAs in the next few year's.
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:42 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:39 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:32 pm

Agreed. Their run is over.
Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on.
who then?
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Russell had to wait til all the other guys were gone too. KD was like the first guy. Kawhi sat on his ass and fucked it all up.

Some tough lessons hopefully learned for Rosas quite quickly the past couple weeks. Couldve been timing. The moment he knew Nets were out on dlo. Trades and sign as fast as possible. But do think Kawhi not signing hurt some of the trade willingness from teams he was talking to.
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bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:46 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:42 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:39 pm

Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on.
who then?
I would of played out the year with what they have and reassessed the situation after the year ends.
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mglviks wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:46 pm Russell had to wait til all the other guys were gone too. KD was like the first guy. Kawhi sat on his ass and fucked it all up.

Some tough lessons hopefully learned for Rosas quite quickly the past couple weeks. Couldve been timing. The moment he knew Nets were out on dlo. Trades and sign as fast as possible. But do think Kawhi not signing hurt some of the trade willingness from teams he was talking to.
As explored in the other thread, we should go after Kawhi now.
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:42 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:39 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:32 pm

Agreed. Their run is over.
Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on. They maxed a guy that is essentially their 4th best player and has only proven to be a NBA player for one year.

It makes sense for a team like the Wolves to gamble on something like this but not GS imo. They could have been player's for some of the biggest FAs in the next few year's.
How though? They have no cap space. Their only option was Russell. It was either him or nothing. He's better than doing nothing at all.
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Southpaw23 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:41 pm Idk... with the Klay extension they’re capped tf out for a while. What if Curry has a steep slope?
Curry's game is all skill, with little athleticism. Those guys don't have steep slopes unless injured. His dribbling and 3 point shot make him a great player as long as he's healthy.
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bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:37 pm
KevinBaconIsNotMyHero wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:31 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:24 pm

Why should they care about long term flexibility for where they are as a team right now when you have a core of Curry/Klay/Draymond (who won a championship, and made a finals together without KD)? When you have a core like that, you don't think 3 years down the road.
That was the core 4 years ago. They had a better bench back then(Iguodala was Finals MVP), Draymond looks like he’s lost a step, Klay tore his ACL, and they don’t have room to add legitimate helpers unless they’re minimum guys. This isn’t close to the team from 2014-15.
Draymond looked like he lost a step...until the playoffs where he was an animal. It may be the same team from 2015, but did you expect them to just roll over and die? This is a highly competitive and prideful team. If I were a fan of them, I'd expect them to make a move like this, and would not be happy if they just rolled over.
I said I understand why they did it. They don’t want to roll over and lose KD for nothing. I’m just saying the basketball fit is weird and the flexibility for them to add free agents they reportedly coveted like Giannis, Anthony Davis(different now that he’s a Laker), and Brad Beal is almost nil. This keeps them a top tier playoff team if Klay returns healthy but they can’t defend anyone. I think it was calculated desperation. It made sense to get something for Durant, but that’s your team for awhile and I don’t think it’ll work.
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j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:48 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:42 pm
bubu dubu. wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:39 pm

Their run of dominance is surely over, but they certainly have a fighting chance with this move, which they wouldn't have had without it.

Their other two options were to roll out Curry and Draymond, get Klay about half way through the season, get a 6-8 seed and grit it out.

or...

Trade away their core that made them great...that isn't going to happen, and they would lose the fans if they did so.

This was a necessary move for where they are as a team...and all they had to give up was Iggy and a first rounder?
It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on. They maxed a guy that is essentially their 4th best player and has only proven to be a NBA player for one year.

It makes sense for a team like the Wolves to gamble on something like this but not GS imo. They could have been player's for some of the biggest FAs in the next few year's.
How though? They have no cap space. Their only option was Russell. It was either him or nothing. He's better than doing nothing at all.
Please explain this. I don't know their cap situation.

Why couldn't they sign a max player next season if someone cane available that they liked?
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:49 pm
j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:48 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:42 pm

It's just not the guy I would of shot my load on. They maxed a guy that is essentially their 4th best player and has only proven to be a NBA player for one year.

It makes sense for a team like the Wolves to gamble on something like this but not GS imo. They could have been player's for some of the biggest FAs in the next few year's.
How though? They have no cap space. Their only option was Russell. It was either him or nothing. He's better than doing nothing at all.
Please explain this. I don't know their cap situation.

Why couldn't they sign a max player next season if someone cane available that they liked?
Between Curry, Klay, and Draymond they're already at the salary cap for this season. Draymond expires next summer, but highly unlikely they don't bring him back. Cap goes up next year, but not enough to re-sign Draymond and add another max guy.

Durant signing elsewhere makes the potential to use him in a sign & trade an asset. It would be wasting a pretty big asset if they didn't use that to bring in more talent.
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j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:52 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:49 pm
j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:48 pm

How though? They have no cap space. Their only option was Russell. It was either him or nothing. He's better than doing nothing at all.
Please explain this. I don't know their cap situation.

Why couldn't they sign a max player next season if someone cane available that they liked?
Between Curry, Klay, and Draymond they're already at the salary cap for this season. Draymond expires next summer, but highly unlikely they don't bring him back. Cap goes up next year, but not enough to re-sign Draymond and add another max guy.

Durant signing elsewhere makes the potential to use him in a sign & trade an asset. It would be wasting a pretty big asset if they didn't use that to bring in more talent.
I see. I didn't know Green came up next year. I personally would let him go IF there is a possibility of getting some of the other guy's that someone listed above.

I still think this is a really weird move for them. I am going to read their forums and see what their fans think.

And who cares if they lost Durant? You got a couple rings out of him and he's got a serious injury and going to be 32 by the time he's back. Probably 33 before he even has a chance at being normal again.

If I was a organization, I would of steered clear of him at this point. Just my opinion.
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RubeTube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:57 pm
j2j wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:52 pm
Rubetube wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:49 pm

Please explain this. I don't know their cap situation.

Why couldn't they sign a max player next season if someone cane available that they liked?
Between Curry, Klay, and Draymond they're already at the salary cap for this season. Draymond expires next summer, but highly unlikely they don't bring him back. Cap goes up next year, but not enough to re-sign Draymond and add another max guy.

Durant signing elsewhere makes the potential to use him in a sign & trade an asset. It would be wasting a pretty big asset if they didn't use that to bring in more talent.
I see. I didn't know Green came up next year. I personally would let him go IF there is a possibility of getting some of the other guy's that someone listed above.

I still think this is a really weird move for them. I am going to read their forums and see what their fans think.

And who cares if they lost Durant? You got a couple rings out of him and he's got a serious injury and going to be 32 by the time he's back. Probably 33 before he even has a chance at being normal again.

If I was a organization, I would of steered clear of him at this point. Just my opinion.
I don't disagree about Durant. The point was they can either let him go for nothing, or arrange a sign and trade with the team Durant is going to. The best asset the Nets had for that sign and trade was D'Angelo Russell. Would be stupid to let him go for nothing.
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