War with Iran

[ForCaleb]

You think that drone was over Iran?

Where did I say that?

I’m asking what you think.

[flexbuffchest]

You think that drone was over Iran?

Where did I say that?

I’m asking what you think.

I think this is one step closer to war and that gives Bolton (a defective human product) a chubby.

[Straight Edge Raven]

The Triton (Navy) (Air Force also has a version called the Global Hawk) is a very large (and expensive) drone. Not stealthy, flies high and meant to (at least for the Navy) monitor maritime traffic. So if it was in international airspace I'd expect that missile launcher at the very least to be destroyed. If nothing happens you can probably bet it strayed into Iranian Airspace.

[GoodToGo]

Who could have seen this coming?

[ForCaleb]

The Triton (Navy) (Air Force also has a version called the Global Hawk) is a very large (and expensive) drone. Not stealthy, flies high and meant to (at least for the Navy) monitor maritime traffic. So if it was in international airspace I'd expect that missile launcher at the very least to be destroyed. If nothing happens you can probably bet it strayed into Iranian Airspace.

Possibly, I highly doubt it though. It was shot over international waters. It fell into international waters. This drone could do enough recon without flying over Iran.

[ForCaleb]

[DonaldDouchebag]

Never seen a strawman you didn't love.

[mlhouse]

They pretend in their fantasies that it is. Obviously, it is a US false flag operation. EVERYONE believes that.

[DonaldDouchebag]

Who could have seen this coming?

We're seeing the chickens of Trump's lying/disinformation campaign coming home to roost: Americans (and our European allies) no longer believe anything the administration says. It's just not possible to take them at their word.

[Southpaw23]

lol oh god it just couldn't be possible for Iran to be ratcheting up tension to seek an 'Iran Deal' type Admin.

[ForCaleb]

Who could have seen this coming?

We're seeing the chickens of Trump's lying/disinformation campaign coming home to roost: Americans (and our European allies) no longer believe anything the administration says. It's just not possible to take them at their word.

What was lied about?

[DonaldDouchebag]

Who could have seen this coming?

We're seeing the chickens of Trump's lying/disinformation campaign coming home to roost: Americans (and our European allies) no longer believe anything the administration says. It's just not possible to take them at their word.

What was lied about?

You... don't think Trump and his administration have lied? You really haven't heard any? They haven't repeatedly said they're doing one thing and then suddenly reversed course based on Trump's whims?

Wow. I didn't know you were this far gone.

[Southpaw23]

POTUS, per pool, seems inclined to given Iran a pass on from strike: “I imagine someone made a mistake...in shooting down the drone. We didn't have a man of woman in the drone. It would have made a big, big difference"

LOL TDS going strong I see.

[ForCaleb]

We're seeing the chickens of Trump's lying/disinformation campaign coming home to roost: Americans (and our European allies) no longer believe anything the administration says. It's just not possible to take them at their word.

What was lied about?

You... don't think Trump and his administration have lied? You really haven't heard any? They haven't repeatedly said they're doing one thing and then suddenly reversed course based on Trump's whims?

Wow. I didn't know you were this far gone.

Ok, take a deep breath, work through your emotions. I thought you asserted that trump lied about a US drone being shot down in international waters.

[DonaldDouchebag]

What was lied about?

You... don't think Trump and his administration have lied? You really haven't heard any? They haven't repeatedly said they're doing one thing and then suddenly reversed course based on Trump's whims?

Wow. I didn't know you were this far gone.

Ok, take a deep breath, work through your emotions. I thought you asserted that trump lied about a US drone being shot down in international waters.

Oh, no. We don't know if he's lying or not but he's given us no reason to believe him. That's the problem with repeatedly lying about everything - you end up not having any credibility when a real crisis comes along.

[GoodToGo]

Sounds like Trump is going to give Iran a pass saying he thinks somebody made a mistake, not Iran’s leaders and that there was nobody in the plane - that would have been a real problem apparently.

So, oh well, shit happens I guess.

[Ask Not]

You... don't think Trump and his administration have lied? You really haven't heard any? They haven't repeatedly said they're doing one thing and then suddenly reversed course based on Trump's whims?

Wow. I didn't know you were this far gone.

Ok, take a deep breath, work through your emotions. I thought you asserted that trump lied about a US drone being shot down in international waters.

Oh, no. We don't know if he's lying or not but he's given us no reason to believe him. That's the problem with repeatedly lying about everything - you end up not having any credibility when a real crisis comes along.

This. You can only say complete exoneration, millions voted illegally, fake news, we don't know who killed Khashoggi, those polls don't exist, ... a couple thousand times before people are no longer sure whether Iran put bombs on a ship or whether Trump is claiming it because it's convenient for him on that given day.

[Mandatory]

Thank you, Mr President! America First!

[ForCaleb]

You... don't think Trump and his administration have lied? You really haven't heard any? They haven't repeatedly said they're doing one thing and then suddenly reversed course based on Trump's whims?

Wow. I didn't know you were this far gone.

Ok, take a deep breath, work through your emotions. I thought you asserted that trump lied about a US drone being shot down in international waters.

Oh, no. We don't know if he's lying or not but he's given us no reason to believe him. That's the problem with repeatedly lying about everything - you end up not having any credibility when a real crisis comes along.

Considering he hasn’t said anything regarding the drone incident other than “Iran made a big mistake” I’m not sure how else he lied regarding this situation.

[Ask Not]

Ok, take a deep breath, work through your emotions. I thought you asserted that trump lied about a US drone being shot down in international waters.

Oh, no. We don't know if he's lying or not but he's given us no reason to believe him. That's the problem with repeatedly lying about everything - you end up not having any credibility when a real crisis comes along.

Considering he hasn’t said anything regarding the drone incident other than “Iran made a big mistake” I’m not sure how else he lied regarding this situation.

But that's not how it works after 11,000+ confirmed lies in 2 1/2 years. The majority of folks assume he's lying until proven otherwise because that's the expectation he's established. It says it right in the report: no collusion, no obstruction.

[DonaldDouchebag]

If you would read above you'll see I specifically mentioned Trump and his administration. They have no credibility.

Also, this "situation" also includes the supposed exploding mines on ships.

[GoodToGo]

Remember how tough Trump was when Iran hadn’t actually done anything?

[Southpaw23]

Mr. President, your caps lock is on again.

[ForCaleb]

Oh, no. We don't know if he's lying or not but he's given us no reason to believe him. That's the problem with repeatedly lying about everything - you end up not having any credibility when a real crisis comes along.

Considering he hasn’t said anything regarding the drone incident other than “Iran made a big mistake” I’m not sure how else he lied regarding this situation.

But that's not how it works after 11,000+ confirmed lies in 2 1/2 years. The majority of folks assume he's lying until proven otherwise because that's the expectation he's established. It says it right in the report: no collusion, no obstruction.

I’m not playing whatabouteveryothersituation, I’m discussing this issue in present time.

[GoodToGo]

[Ask Not]

Considering he hasn’t said anything regarding the drone incident other than “Iran made a big mistake” I’m not sure how else he lied regarding this situation.

But that's not how it works after 11,000+ confirmed lies in 2 1/2 years. The majority of folks assume he's lying until proven otherwise because that's the expectation he's established. It says it right in the report: no collusion, no obstruction.

I’m not playing whatabouteveryothersituation, I’m discussing this issue in present time.

Me too. He has no credibility within the country or around the world 'in present time' because he's used it all up. There is no whatabout.

For the record, all signs point to Iranian provocation, but when Japan said they thought the bombs on the ship were not Iranian and Trump said they were, I believed Japan because they don't have the history of daily lying.

Keep defending Trump on everything he does, but don't twist what I'm saying or what DD was saying to do it.

[Ask Not]

Mlhouse has a cousin in law that is Iranian and shoots at drones

[ForCaleb]

But that's not how it works after 11,000+ confirmed lies in 2 1/2 years. The majority of folks assume he's lying until proven otherwise because that's the expectation he's established. It says it right in the report: no collusion, no obstruction.

I’m not playing whatabouteveryothersituation, I’m discussing this issue in present time.

Me too. He has no credibility within the country or around the world 'in present time' because he's used it all up. There is no whatabout.

For the record, all signs point to Iranian provocation, but when Japan said they thought the bombs on the ship were not Iranian and Trump said they were, I believed Japan because they don't have the history of daily lying.

Keep defending him on everything he does, but don't twist what I'm saying or what DD was saying to do it.

It’s been confirmed Iran did bomb the Japanese vessel.

The evidence points to Iran shooting down the drone over international waters.

You don’t need trump to tell you everything regardless if it’s believable or not.

[Slap Shot]

[ForCaleb]

Should there be consequences of Iran’s actions?