War with Iran

[Beef Supreme]

Pro or anti?




I’m anti.

[whiskerbiscuit]

Not surprising tensions are heating up.


Trump needs a war going into the election.

[BlackDog]

Anti. This country has been itching for the opportunity since Reagan and I’ll vote against anyone who approves it.

[Bob Wiley]

Pro or anti?




I’m anti.

I’m always anti war, it sometimes it’s the last resort. I doubt we are anywhere close to there.

[Beef Supreme]

It would be neat if we could get some of the froob chat trumpkins to weigh in before they get their marching orders from Fox News or Trump’s tweets or Alex Jones or Joseph Goebbels or wherever they get their propaganda.

[whiskerbiscuit]

It would be neat if we could get some of the froob chat trumpkins to weigh in before they get their marching orders from Fox News or Trump’s tweets or Alex Jones or Joseph Goebbels or wherever they get their propaganda.

Most of the war mongering and war propaganda has come from Trump's "opposition" the last few years.

[Beef Supreme]

It would be neat if we could get some of the froob chat trumpkins to weigh in before they get their marching orders from Fox News or Trump’s tweets or Alex Jones or Joseph Goebbels or wherever they get their propaganda.

Most of the war mongering and war propaganda has come from Trump's "opposition" the last few years.

Well not from me. And I’m Trump’s opposition.

[flexbuffchest]

Anti.

It was obvious that tensions would quickly rise between us and them when Trump was elected.

[whiskerbiscuit]

It would be neat if we could get some of the froob chat trumpkins to weigh in before they get their marching orders from Fox News or Trump’s tweets or Alex Jones or Joseph Goebbels or wherever they get their propaganda.

Most of the war mongering and war propaganda has come from Trump's "opposition" the last few years.

Well not from me. And I’m Trump’s opposition.

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

[Beef Supreme]

Most of the war mongering and war propaganda has come from Trump's "opposition" the last few years.

Well not from me. And I’m Trump’s opposition.

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

[Gork]

From a nuclear deal to the brink of war in a couple years time. Brilliant leadership.

[whiskerbiscuit]

Well not from me. And I’m Trump’s opposition.

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

Both of them are peddled by the same discredited neo con assholes like William Krystal.


The behavior toward Iran (and Venezuela) should put to bed any conspiracy theories about Trump and Putin. And they are absolutely connected.

[Beef Supreme]

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

Both of them are peddled by the same discredited neo con assholes like William Krystal.


The behavior toward Iran (and Venezuela) should put to bed any conspiracy theories about Trump and Putin. And they are absolutely connected.

You’re insane.

[whiskerbiscuit]

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

Both of them are peddled by the same discredited neo con assholes like William Krystal.


The behavior toward Iran (and Venezuela) should put to bed any conspiracy theories about Trump and Putin. And they are absolutely connected.

You’re insane.

You've been eating up war propaganda for two years and are only now pulling your head out of the sand as they're pushing another catastrophic war.


Congrats.

[BlackDog]

When has beefy ever advocated for war with Russia?

The two are different. You can criticize what Russia did which Beefy has done and then there advocating for war with Russia which Beefy has never done.

I can’t even think of anybody who’s advocated for war with Russia.

[whiskerbiscuit]

When has beefy ever advocated for war with Russia?

The two are different. You can criticize what Russia did which Beefy has done and then there advocating for war with Russia which Beefy has never done.

I can’t even think of anybody who’s advocated for war with Russia.

Increasing tensions and war posturing works just as well as war for the propagandists and war profiteers.


We aren't at war with Iran yet. But the increased tensions from Trump goes directly against the Trump/Putin narrative. It's insane that beefy and apparently you can see through one but not the other.

[ForCaleb]

Well not from me. And I’m Trump’s opposition.

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

[BlackDog]

When has beefy ever advocated for war with Russia?

The two are different. You can criticize what Russia did which Beefy has done and then there advocating for war with Russia which Beefy has never done.

I can’t even think of anybody who’s advocated for war with Russia.

Increasing tensions and war posturing works just as well as war for the propagandists and war profiteers.


We aren't at war with Iran yet. But the increased tensions from Trump goes directly against the Trump/Putin narrative. It's insane that beefy and apparently you can see through one but not the other.

You act as though anyone of us have a choice. If the government wants war it will do it.

[Straight Edge Raven]

Its still the Europeans fault for dragging us into this. We were happy dealing with the cluster fuck that was Iraq and Afghanistan. But big bad Iran was ignoring the Europeans so they begged the U.S. to help out and here we are a number of years later.

[whiskerbiscuit]

When has beefy ever advocated for war with Russia?

The two are different. You can criticize what Russia did which Beefy has done and then there advocating for war with Russia which Beefy has never done.

I can’t even think of anybody who’s advocated for war with Russia.

Increasing tensions and war posturing works just as well as war for the propagandists and war profiteers.


We aren't at war with Iran yet. But the increased tensions from Trump goes directly against the Trump/Putin narrative. It's insane that beefy and apparently you can see through one but not the other.

You act as though anyone of us have a choice. If the government wants war it will do it.

That's true, but we have a choice of whether to believe the propaganda narratives or not.


The bullshit about Iran isn't any different than the bullshit about Russia and it comes from pretty much the same people. The events now are bearing that out. Increased tensions with Iran goes directly against Putin's interest as well as the behavior toward Venezuela and Ukraine.

[Beef Supreme]

Its still the Europeans fault for dragging us into this. We were happy dealing with the cluster fuck that was Iraq and Afghanistan. But big bad Iran was ignoring the Europeans so they begged the U.S. to help out and here we are a number of years later.

We didn’t have to say yes.

[Beef Supreme]

'Fraid so. If you've been remotely concerned about Russia and Trump being "Putin's puppet" then you absolutely have been eating up the war propaganda.

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

[ForCaleb]

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

Can you explain how?

[Beef Supreme]

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

Can you explain how?

Yes.

[whiskerbiscuit]

You’re insane.


It is easily possible to be wary of the Trump-Russia/Putin connections and also anti-war.

The two things are not connected at all.

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

If the insane conspiracy theories you've peddled, on account of believing obvious war propaganda, were true then this Iran bullshit wouldn't be happening.


The political expediency comes from the military industrial complex. It's politically expedient for them to peddle Iran bullshit and Trump/Putin conspiracy theories even though those two narratives are at odds with each other.

Just don't accuse anybody else of believing propaganda while you're doing the same thing.

[mlhouse]

There should be a lot of steps, including even tougher sanctions against Iran before any "war" is stepped into although I would not rule out covert military activity. Maybe in retaliation we should look at certain measures against Iranian naval assets.

[Beef Supreme]

If trump is in bed with Russia why would he want to go to war with Iran?

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

If the insane conspiracy theories you've peddled, on account of believing obvious war propaganda, were true then this Iran bullshit wouldn't be happening.


The political expediency comes from the military industrial complex. It's politically expedient for them to peddle Iran bullshit and Trump/Putin conspiracy theories even though those two narratives are at odds with each other.

Just don't accuse anybody else of believing propaganda while you're doing the same thing.

I don’t believe that the trump/Putin-Russia connections are conspiracy and don’t see how the evidence of this connection is related to the MIC.

[whiskerbiscuit]

Because both can be politically expedient for him at different times.

If the insane conspiracy theories you've peddled, on account of believing obvious war propaganda, were true then this Iran bullshit wouldn't be happening.


The political expediency comes from the military industrial complex. It's politically expedient for them to peddle Iran bullshit and Trump/Putin conspiracy theories even though those two narratives are at odds with each other.

Just don't accuse anybody else of believing propaganda while you're doing the same thing.

I don’t believe that the trump/Putin-Russia connections are conspiracy and don’t see how the evidence of this connection is related to the MIC.

You don't think increased tensions with Russia isn't something the MIC has wanted since the 80's? The Trump/Russia propaganda narrative has got the entire American left to hate Russia which they never did before Trump. It's been the most successful con job since Iraq. So now essentially the entire political landscape of the US is under the tent of the MIC.

The right hates Iran. The left hates Russia. No matter who's in charge the interests of the MIC are served.


It doesn't make a lick of sense that Trump would be rattling sabres with Iran if he were in bed with Putin. But making sense doesn't matter as long they get what they want.

Oh and the "evidence" of the Trump/Putin connections comes from many of the same people and interests that peddled Iraq propaganda and are doing the same thing with Iran.


I'm with you on Iran, I just think it's very hypocritical of you to tell anybody else that their info sources are propaganda.

[Straight Edge Raven]

Its still the Europeans fault for dragging us into this. We were happy dealing with the cluster fuck that was Iraq and Afghanistan. But big bad Iran was ignoring the Europeans so they begged the U.S. to help out and here we are a number of years later.

We didn’t have to say yes.

We can't help ourselves.......its fucking annoying sometimes.

[whiskerbiscuit]

Its still the Europeans fault for dragging us into this. We were happy dealing with the cluster fuck that was Iraq and Afghanistan. But big bad Iran was ignoring the Europeans so they begged the U.S. to help out and here we are a number of years later.

We didn’t have to say yes.

We can't help ourselves.......its fucking annoying sometimes.

It could've been avoided if we had heeded the advice of our greatest military hero in history, Maj. Gen Smedley D. Butler. In a time of war no single person in the country should make more money than the private on the front lines.

If there weren't massive profits to be reaped off the wars, do you really think they would happen?


War is a Racket! Read it. Nothing has changed.